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transomist
10:35 AM

In reply to Which Gay Actor Was Outed on a Nude Beach?
1) Phillipe? #gossip
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StonedAndDethroned
10:29 AM

In reply to Which Gay Actor Was Outed on a Nude Beach?
The people in #3 sound fun! #gossip
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Magister
10:27 AM

In reply to Which Gay Actor Was Outed on a Nude Beach?
1) Is Fred Thompson's wife an actress?
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NotChoinski
10:13 AM

In reply to Which Gay Actor Was Outed on a Nude Beach?
1 - Jason Statham "sinking quickly" - his girlfreind was Kelly Brook , of "Survival Island"

Or Billy Zane, also with Kelly Brook , of "Survival Island" AND "Titanic"
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bboston88
10:54 AM

@NotChoinski: Not Jason! I like the Billy Zane guess. I was thinking Hayden? #gossip
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Magister
05:02 AM

In reply to Elijah Wood Is the Most Critically-Acclaimed Actor, Freddie Prinze, Jr. the Most Hated
I'm not sure where they got the list of actors, but a top 50 that doesn't include Meryl Streep? #robertebert
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Go Like Hell Machine
07:13 AM

@Magister: Or Anjelica Houston, or, really, with the exception of one or two people, anyone who's not white or male. #robertebert
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Magister
07:31 AM

@Go Like Hell Machine: Now that you mention it, where's Denzel Washington or Will Smith? (They should've been top 50)

The wording on the other site doesn't source their list, so we might have to assume that it's whomever popped into the author's mind.
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Go Like Hell Machine
07:46 AM

@Magister: Or, hell Morgan Freeman.
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Magister
07:56 AM

@Go Like Hell Machine: Now see, Freeman is a great actor, but he has made some cash-based choices.

And because you've given me a chance to clarify my original response; I didn't mean to imply that Will Smith is in the pantheon of great actors, but most people find him watchable and the critics like him.
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Go Like Hell Machine
08:26 AM

@Magister: Regardless, that top ten list is seriously top heavy with white dudes. #robertebert
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Grandpapular
11:25 AM

@Magister: Critics like him? Sir, he was in both Wild Wild West AND Men in Black 2! #robertebert
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Magister
11:35 AM

@Grandpapular: Okay - You've got me there, but by most measures, Meryl Streep is considered the greatest living actress and Denzel Washington isn't very far behind. #robertebert
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AlmostDream
12:11 PM

@Magister: Yeah, but both Meryl and Denzel make A LOT of movies, and not all of them good, so even though they have a lot of plusses, they're balanced out by quite a few minuses. The top ten (with the weird exception of Hanks) star in fewer movies, but they tend to be good ones, so they might have fewer plusses, but almost no minuses, giving them higher scores. #robertebert
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Magister
12:44 PM

@AlmostDream:
I'm a little hard-pressed to think of a badly-reviewed Meryl Streep film and your suggestion might explain the "Nerds of the Rings", but Ethan Hawke?

Not to mention that there was a time, Martin Sheen would be in any movie with a checkbook. He has slowed down some since the the West Wing residuals have been rolling in, but he's still in a lot of films and though he's a very good actor, you can't say that all of his movies have been good.
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unclevanya
04:59 AM

In reply to Elijah Wood Is the Most Critically-Acclaimed Actor, Freddie Prinze, Jr. the Most Hated
This is a great day for unattached, media-obsessed white fanboys everywhere. #robertebert
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raincoaster
12:38 AM

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions

Scientific proof. #scientology
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Mount_Prion
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
He's invoking Tom Cruise to be physically intimidating? Aren't people on stilts usually present for more humorous occasions? #scientology
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Novaload
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
The first rule about Scientology Fight Club is that you don't talk about Scientology Fight Club. #scientology
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onebadclam
11/08/09

@Novaload: So, the standard OT rules apply, then. #scientology
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
Please put a dead pool up on when people get criminal charges / go to jail for this. #scientology
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PandoraSpocks
11/08/09

In reply to These Are Your Excuses For Not Watching Mad Men Tonight
It is completely de rigueur,
In these times of ennui,
To love a book or show no one knows,
In the name or irony.

But you kids who watch TV,
And twitter-text, while talking on a cell,
have the attention span of flies,
still waiting for a school bell.

And when the unheard of becomes popular,
and instant gratification takes too long,
you hate the very things whose praises you once sang.

This show requires TOTAL attention.
And a sense of history
And so much more...

Go Matt Weiner!!!! (And no, I've never even met him.) #madmen
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snugbug
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
I have a Scientology nugget that might be a bit off-thread, but I don't know where else to put it.

A couple of years ago, the national mag that employed me had an editorial meeting and decided to task a reporter team to do the research ground work on a future Scientology expose. We started by having lunch at the cafeteria on the premises of the "Scientology Celebrity Centre (sic) International" in Hollywood. When we showed up, the receptionists demanded that we all turn in our driver licenses. They recorded all the data in a log. Our names, home addresses and driver license alpha-numeric codes. So.Fucking.Creepy. #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

@snugbug: BE careful , I don't think there are that many snugbug's in America #scientology
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mommy_dearest
12:31 AM

@adiam7: The hardest part about reading comments is trying to come up with something witty when you have a case of the giggles. Darn you, adiam7. #scientology
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Tremonius
12:12 PM

@snugbug: See, this is how it works in scientific investigations. There was this member of our unit, Ft Sill, OK, who was short of cash and long of need, like all of us, so he left a deposit of value with a Lawton service station and then gleefully lit out with a full tank, never expecting to have to pay the bill. But they traced him down with topflight police work.

The item he left with the station attendant was his ID card.

This guy is probably with the Scientology racket now. #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
Tom Cruis is like 5'4 WTF are these morons scared of? Paul Higgins puts them in a very tight spot. He looks like he could live up to anything they reveal AND the revelations will cause more people leaving. I think there will be revelations but it will be more subtle. He is also sure t obe in store for some serious backlash from the Scientology elite. So no movies with the Elfman's #scientology
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lil red
11/08/09

@adiam7: from the letter to Fields, posted on Rathbun's website- the threat of a Cruise combat on suppressives was accompanied by the additional threat that the "managers" would be bypassed by Cruise if they did not beat them to a pulp. Here is the excerpt from the letter:

Miscavige informed all of the members of International management that he had been telling Cruise all about how suppressive Yager, Leserve, and Mithoff had been to Miscavige personally. He told the executives that he had told Cruise how all other members of management were suppressive to Miscavige too because they refused to beat Yager, Leserve and Mithoff to pulps in defense of Miscavige’s honor. Miscavige said that Tom, as his best friend and most trusted confidante, had vowed to come to the Hole and personally "beat the living shit" out of Yager, Leserve, and Mithoff if the managers failed to do so themselves. Miscavige said that if they didn’t show evidence that they had acted, they all would be bypassed the next day by Cruise. The tantrum was accompanied by the usual ill-tempered and sadistic threats to the executives detailing what would become of them if Tom had to do "their job." #scientology
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snugbug
11/08/09

@adiam7: Cruise is powerful because he's not just a bankable star but also currently runs a Hollywood studio--United Artists. Albeit a kind of phantom studio. Nevertheless, the position of studio head enhances his stature in Hollywood. F-wad demands respect from countless numbers of actors who wish to be employed. #scientology
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thingsbehindthesun
11/08/09

@adiam7: Why am I reminded of this scene?
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FrankenPC
11/08/09

@thingsbehindthesun: DAMNIT adaim7!! You just made me start watching Tropic Thunder again...again.

I LOVE that movie! #scientology
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Cheruth
11/08/09

@snugbug: Its insane but true. I have known a few young hopeful actors to go to scientology events just for the connections. Tom Cruise's UA being the biggest one. #scientology
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saa
11/08/09

@snugbug: Usually I separate an actor from his/her personal life, but I can no longer do that with Tom Cruise. When he's in a film or in an interview, all I see is bat-shit crazy creepy loony.

And dumb. #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

@lil red: Fields broke the law in so many ways on that Pellicano case that this does not surprise me one bit #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

@snugbug: That is true but I think his brand is fucked and has been on a serious decline since the couch incident. More importantly, his movies have sucked. Also, didn't his movie partner leave him recently? If this was the old Tom Cruise AND he was running a studio I would be more worried for Paul . I am more concerned about the closet Scientologist and their impact on Higgins. Not to mention those not as secure as Paul Higgins that Scientology could get to in order to effect Higgins in an adverse way . Finally, that wife of his and the whole disconnections thing are probably going to be an issue. I believe Higgins has trouble ahead of him but not as much as he would have had a few years ago. The defectors, tell-alls, news reports, the pesky internet and best of all Tom Davies have really hurt these nutjobs #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

@thingsbehindthesun: I believe that he used the "scorched earth" line for real. #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

@FrankenPC: Who wouldn't love that shit. He was probably channeling his supreme leader #scientology
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adiam7
11/08/09

@saa: You see the truth . He cant even "act" anymore , he is that looney that it comes across #scientology
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FrankenPC
11/08/09

@adiam7: LOL!! So true!! What was that other movie where he channeled his inner self and did really well...(off to IMDB).

(Back from IMDB). Ahhhh yes..Magnolia. The womanizer Frank Mackey. Perfect role. #scientology
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snugbug
11/08/09

@saa: You mean you didn't buy Tommy Cruise of Syracuse as a one-eyed German aristocrat in Valkyrie? His American accent instantly transported me to Nazi Germany, it really did.. Seriously though, that film was hilariously schizophrenic. Cruise was the only one who spoke American, the British supporting cast spoke the Queen's English and the German supporting cast spoke German-accented English.. Tower of Babel FTW!
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snugbug
11/08/09

@Cheruth: The Beverly Hills Playhouse is also a major Scientology recruiting nexus in L.A. (Kind of a PSA, if any hopeful young actor out there is looking for a way to break into Hollywood and doesn't mind going the Sciento route.) #scientology
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saa
12:03 AM

@snugbug: Would have been a much better film if the kid from the Pepsodent commercial hadn't wandered in... #scientology
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ChasityNuggletron
01:37 AM

@Cheruth: I, too, know quite a few otherwise sane and halfway intelligent struggling actors that go to these scientology events. That's where I preempt their exclusion of me as a potential "SP" and delete them from my Facebook. OTs, your move.
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adiam7
07:56 AM

@snugbug: I am troubled that you saw that film. I saw the review and heard his English and I figured he didn't make an effort so why the fuck should I. A German aristocrat from today let alone then would speak the Queen's English, but if that was too much for him then he should have had everyone speak American English an #scientology
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adiam7
07:58 AM

@snugbug: That's the guy I was talking about!!!! He is dead, some acting teacher , he recruited like half of their member. He is the one that wrote a book that was not even about acting but his life and where did he get to go ? Oprah. I am telling you they got some shit on her.This was not that long ago, and his appearance made no sense , #scientology
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adiam7
07:59 AM

@ChasityNuggletron: The preemptive disconnection. Nice play. #scientology
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snugbug
09:56 AM

@adiam7: I watched it for giggles--and I promise you, it was worth it! I think Tom C gave up even trying accents after that fiasco called "Far and Away" where he attempted "Irish laddie" speak. That being said, I saw "Lions and Lambs" recently--this first, and to date only, film he produced for his studio--and I must admit, he wasn't bad in it. I mean, he only comes in two settings, really--1. huffy, "focused," determined; and 2. "heeeeey, beybeh"-smarmy a-hole but approx. once a decade he pulls it off. #scientology
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Tremonius
12:17 PM

@saa: What's his background? I know he knows "the history of psychology" or something but what other education does this little drip have?

I ain't gonna go looking him up on the googles in case somebody searches my history file ... #scientology
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Tremonius
12:19 PM

@adiam7: When could he? Seriously. He just lost his best buddy and he stares in the mirror, sighs, flicks eyes left in a Clare Danes take, and that's a rap. #scientology
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Tremonius
12:21 PM

@snugbug: Like it or not, Days of Thunder had a great opening. You have some of the sense of old guys who know their business going about it. Then in rides the little drip on his Honda and it's time to look for the remote. #scientology
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Tremonius
12:26 PM

@adiam7: Just want to mention once it was done well. Maximillian Schell in Judgment at Nuremberg. He delivered his opening monologue in German and then there was a transition jump cut and he spoke accented English from there but let on he was still being translated, and all because the double-talk through the translator was becoming tedious. #scientology
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jasonelias
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
Can you imagine being in an already flawed "belief system" like Scientology and then getting beat up and beat up by Tom Cruise. It's too surreal for words--and very sickening. #scientology
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BicycleShed
11/08/09

In reply to Scientology Revelations: 'Presentation Drills,' Beatdown Offerings, and Tom Cruise's Audit Sessions
I've been thinking a lot about Haggis's letter and I think it really puts Scientology in a tight spot. It's totally an assumption on my part, but I would suspect that there are quite a few mid-profile Scientology celebrities who feel the same way Haggis does about the Scientology's Prop. 8 support (i.e., real discomfort). I don't know how Scientology deals with changes in its doctrine, but I assume changes can be made. But given what we all suspect about the way Scientology has used certain members' misgivings about their own sexuality as a means of control, such a change in doctrine could result in less leverage in Hollywood. But not changing their stance has risks too. There's that story about Jenna Elfman and her husband accosting some guy who wore a shirt that mocked Scientology and they angrily said to him, in effect, "you're mocking my religion!" I wonder how the couple would have reacted if someone rather loudly explained to them that, "yes, my t-shirt is critical of your religion because it donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to a political campaign whose sole purpose was to take away my (or my friend's, or sister's or father's) right to marry the person they love. I'm also critical of the Mormon church, the Catholic Church and various freak show right wing protestant churches that you're apparently in bed with. Good day. Assholes." Oh, and I also like to think that the career of Neil Patrick Harris gives Miscavige nightmares.
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CumaeanSibyl
11/08/09

@BicycleShed: Scientology can't change its doctrine. L. Ron Hubbard's works, referred to collectively as "Source," cannot be altered in any way. You're not even supposed to rephrase it, because they believe in the importance of exact wording.

Now, obviously there's the old "previously undiscovered writings" gambit, but given that Hubbard was consistent with his opinions on homosexuality, I don't think it'd work here. For instance, I'm pretty sure it showed up in Dianetics, and there's no good way to efface that. #scientology
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BicycleShed
11/08/09

@CumaeanSibyl: Thanks. I should have known that they'd be loathe to deviate from anything previously published by Hubbard himself. I'm sure I'm not saying anything novel and that others have suggested that growing acceptance of homosexuality poses some real problems for Scientology. The battle for marriage rights just seems to shine a spotlight on their (and other institutions') bigotry. To which I say, good. #scientology
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Tremonius
12:30 PM

@CumaeanSibyl: It's time for their own Joseph Smith with his magical mystery golden tablets straight from the presses of Gabriel - which are, ahem, just too holy to be actually shown to the unblessed. #scientology
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